As the Rose Hill Gym Continues to Age, Questions about a New Arena Remain
Posted by Fordham SportsNet on April 17, 2009
(This article is Part IV of Fordham SportsNet’s series detailing Frank McLaughlin’s thoughts on the current state of the Fordham men’s basketball program. Today, the AD talks about the Rose Hill Gym and plans for a new arena.)
BY CHARLES COSTELLO
The Rose Hill Gym opened its doors for the first time on January 16, 1925 for a game between Fordham and Boston College. Today, it’s the oldest gym still being used by an NCAA Division I team. Despite a two million dollar renovation in the summer of 2002, and even with all its history, the Gym is what it is: A quaint, 3200 seat venue that does little to attract recruits and opponents. And without the modern amenities newer facilities provide, the Gym is simply unable to produce that special gameday experience fans have come to expect.
For years, Fordham University officials have faced intense questioning from alumni and fans about plans for a new arena. Most recently, rumors have run rampant about designs for a new arena, what it would take to build a new arena on campus, and whether or not the administration feels a new basketball home is a priority. When Fordham SportsNet sat down with Frank McLaughlin, the AD talked about the Rose Hill Gym and plans for a new arena.
“The plans are there,” McLaughlin said. “The plans have changed over the course of time. They’re probably different today than they were three years ago because of the economy. There’s no question that if there’s a major donor that was interested in building an arena and made a substantial contribution obviously it would move up on the priority list.”
When McLaughlin talks about a new arena he is really talking about an entire convocation center. Right now, the Lombardi Center serves as the home to the Rose Hill Gym, athletic offices, weight and training rooms, basketball and tennis courts, an indoor track, a swimming pool, and other athletic facilities and necessities. A more modern, updated facility would be ideal, McLaughlin says, for everyone from athletes to fans.
“We need a student center. We need a rec center. We need an athletic center. We need all three. They’re mandatory. We have to have them,” McLaughlin said, referring to NCAA requirements. “We’re in a league now which is a killer league. If you look at Saint Louis University, two years ago we were better than them. But you build an 85 million dollar facility, that really enhances your recruiting, your support. It becomes a real pride factor for an institution.”
It’s become clear, to McLaughlin and others, that the Rose Hill Gym just doesn’t measure up to college basketball arenas across the country.
“There’s no question we’re at a disadvantage,” McLaughlin said. “Kids that are basketball players come here and the first thing they want to see is the arena.
“There’s no question if we had a facility we’d really enhance the program. If you took [Fordham head coach] Dereck Whittenburg and made him the head coach at Xavier I’m sure they’d be successful. If you took Sean Miller from Xavier and put him here he would struggle. (Since this interview took place Miller left Xavier to become the head coach at Arizona.)
While the Sean Miller reference may say more about the overall state of Fordham basketball than just simply the need for a new arena, McLaughlin understands the importance of having a facility that attracts talent, increases enthusiasm, and creates the modern gameday experience fans get in newer venues.
“If we had Saint Louis’ facility or Xavier’s facility the first thing you’d get is a much higher level player. You get a much higher level player you have a much better team. You have a much better team then people want to come and see the team,” McLaughlin said.
Right now, people aren’t coming to Rose Hill to see the team. Fordham’s 3-25 record last season had a lot to do with that. McLaughlin understands that part of the equation. But the AD and other higher-ups at the university also see the empty seats at the current facility.
“I’ve heard people here on campus [ask] ‘why do we even have to build something if we don’t pack the present gym?” McLaughlin said. “Maybe if our alumni and the students prove that this place is packed then maybe other people would say it’s a necessity.”
For now, McLaughlin is involved in ongoing discussions with Madison Square Garden, the IZOD Center, and the Prudential Center, potential sites for Fordham to play some of its home games in the future. The Rams are scheduled to play Seton Hall in Newark next season, and there’s talk of a game against Villanova at the Meadowlands. During the Bob Hill era, the school began playing some home games at the Garden with mixed results. There was the big win against St. John’s back in 2000, but there were also a lot of empty seats any time the Rams played at MSG.
“We’ve looked at all of those [facilities] and we’ve talked to the people,” McLaughlin said. “To be honest with you, we don’t have a great product right now. One of the worst things would be to go into the Garden to play a game and have 3500 people. Believe me, we’re working on all those things. We’re at a disadvantage. If there was an eight to ten thousand seat facility in this area, that would be ideal. Unfortunately, we don’t have that.”
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SIram said
Does Frank feel he has done all he could to advocate for a new gym? He is in charge of the athletic program and should have been a better advocate to move a new gym higher on the priority list for the current capital campaign. His repeated comments of waiting for someone to write a huge check are ridiculous.
2460 Washington said
“If we had Saint Louis’ facility or Xavier’s facility the first thing you’d get is a much higher level player. You get a much higher level player you have a much better team. You have a much better team then people want to come and see the team,” McLaughlin said.
Very nice thing to say about the players…
Mike said
“On going negotiations”???? Why pay to use those big arenas that will be 3/4 empty when you can at least start saving for an on campus arena? Frank just doesn’t get it! He is like so many of the administration at the University who just don’t understand how people think. Frank implores students to show up, well charge them nothing. Also, charge alums less. Who wants to pay 10 bucks to see a 3 win team lost to Columbia? Frank talks about an alum making a donation, but why not go after a major corporate sponsor. Franks former Assistant Coach, and friend, Julio Diaz is in charge of marketing and tickets for the team and all he does is rob Fordham. He does nothing. He is the one who should be held accountable in addition to Frank. Go out and get a sponsor. Julio does nothing except sit on a paycheck. He reminds me of the MTA fatcats who answer any problem by raising fares and not doing any creative thinking.
Clean House, Father McShane!!!! Do it now. Vince Lombardi, Big Ed Walsh and Frankie Frisch are counting on you!
Ram 91 said
So, we can’t recruit because we don’t have good facilities, we don’t have good facilities because the fans don’t come, the fans don’t come because the team can’t win, and the team can’t win because we can’t recruit. Have I missed anything? Oh, and I forgot, no coach could succeed here.
So who, if anyone, at Fordham is willing to step and break the cycle, or is it the job of the administration to sit back, hope and pray and say that’s doing everything?
bronxram said
Dont forget luck Ram 91, we need lots and lots of luck to be successful. Soon enough, money for the new arena is going to just start growing on trees. Right
mike said
Tell Frank to peruse the bios of the other ADs in our conference and in D1.
They almost all have professional experience, graduate or post graduate degrees, and have a resume’ flush with fund raising as a part of the AD job!
If Frank applied for the current AD job, his resume’ wouldnt make it beyond the shredder. Tell me exactly what “marketing and promotions ” experience our Director of Marketing and Promotions has on his resume’ ? I dont see any!
This staff has no idea how to do the job and is woefully lacking in the qualiifcations and educational background of other similarly situation administrators. Hence, they fail.
TerpTek said
Where’s Digger when we need him (again)? He’d take action and get the admin off their behinds and getting out there fundraising. With all the successful alumni FU has too? Manhattan puts them to shame with fundraising.
Joe Jack said
If I was Father McShane I would of talked to the director of CUNY and purchased Lehman College. I would of used there land to house the business department and science facilities Fordham truly needs. Than I would of made a sports arena within the new campus. Not only would it of benefited the school but also enlarged the campus. I don’t know why Fordham keeps moving towards Westchester when they have good resources here at home. The administration is a joke and overlooks any aspect of success at Fordham.